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PostSubject: Re: Clan Server Discussion   Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:38 pm

i really like the idea of battering rams and such. that would make pvp way more fun. because you would have to fight to destroy a base insted of a few clicks. and thicker walls would be effective
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Server Discussion   Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:57 pm

Built a brand new vault in the same location using all my obsidian. So much more convenient for me with the new redstone circuit keeping the door open until the reset buttom is pressed. Before, I had trouble making it in the vault because of the lag and the door slamming in my face as a result. Also fixed the ability to break in with a pressure pad that amaz found.
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Server Discussion   Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:14 pm

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very true, but it would create the problem of having to attach an owner to every block placed. the reason that works fine in the existing mod is because diamond is so rarely placed that its not a big deal.
Ive seen plugins that let you find out who placed what block, and thats the same thing as an owner

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this will never happen for the pure PvP. it won't be anything like how standard PvP should be, there are unbreakable diamond blocks for those purposes. its like if in d2 you could sell any ring to summon uber diablo instead of just soj's. that said, it'd create a kind of cat and mouse game style that i think could be very fun with a few tweaks (ex. a battering ram schematic which can break through low tier blocks)
In PvP someone could make a stronghold, but it wouldn't matter since anyone can just spend 5 seconds with a pick to get in
Unless you make the stronghold out of diamonds
So why bother using a battering ram (or tnt) at all when you can just destroy the block yourself by hand

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having to use 1 tnt per every wall you want to break through is still too expensive for pvp
especially considering the wall might be guarding nothing at all
Thats the point
If your going to break into someones stronghold it should cost something (unless you can tunnel in because they didnt make a floor or something)
TNT isnt that hard to get, you can make a monster trap and gain tons of gunpowder
You dont even need TNT, you can use creepers if you risk them killing you (or taking damage) in the process

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there are a few problems i can think of for this as is
like that a person could easily wall of som1 else's entrance by placing blocks and pushing em into place
I actually didnt think of that
But you can already do that with diamonds
They could always make a new entrance and you can maybe put something time based in that removes other players blocks that get pushed directly next to someone elses block, 5 minutes after its pushed next to someones block it gets removed or something

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all in all i think it'd be much easier for protection purposes to have an admin tool which can set a field to be owned by a player(s)
which im willing to do once i have a bit more time
Thats what ive seen most servers do
Theres already plugins for that kind of thing, and thats fine if you do that for pvp

But i was just suggesting something new
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Server Discussion   Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:21 pm

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Ive seen plugins that let you find out who placed what block, and thats the same thing as an owner
oh ok, that sounds like ownership is something minecraft does automatically
which would make sense because a block of diamond you place is treated differently from a block of diamond placed by the map
i'll look into it, but if this is the case then its a whole lot more possible

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In PvP someone could make a stronghold, but it wouldn't matter since anyone can just spend 5 seconds with a pick to get in
Unless you make the stronghold out of diamonds
So why bother using a battering ram (or tnt) at all when you can just destroy the block yourself by hand
the battering ram/tnt is purely for if your idea is implemented
also giant strongholds aren't really the deal with vanilla pvp
hideouts: yes, secretive strongholds: yes, strongholds that are loaded with traps: yes if you're rich and daring
otherwise you're pretty much limited to putting the stronghold in the nether where there's natural protection... not that there's anything wrong with that, its awesome.

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Thats the point
If your going to break into someones stronghold it should cost something (unless you can tunnel in because they didnt make a floor or something)
TNT isnt that hard to get, you can make a monster trap and gain tons of gunpowder
You dont even need TNT, you can use creepers if you risk them killing you (or taking damage) in the process

right but what if they have like 5 layers of cobble wall. really easy/quick to do, incredibly difficult to destroy. i see your point though, if it wasn't abused then it would be very cool. but i still want to get an idea about how regular pvp runs before doing something like this.

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I actually didnt think of that
But you can already do that with diamonds
They could always make a new entrance and you can maybe put something time based in that removes other players blocks that get pushed directly next to someone elses block, 5 minutes after its pushed next to someones block it gets removed or something

for smp, entrances are important for how the building looks. but yes, you're right diamond already does this - but its pretty expensive to do it with diamond when a mod will just come and take it away.

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Thats what ive seen most servers do
Theres already plugins for that kind of thing, and thats fine if you do that for pvp
if pvp got a mod of this type, it would be similar to the one you described. pvp is supposed to be chaos, with absolutely no adminy powers.
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Server Discussion   Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:31 pm

The battering ram with my idea would be nice, i thought you meant without it which would make it pointless

But yeah, the main part of my idea is about making it impossible to destroy enemy blocks with your hands/tools in pvp unless they are certain types (like gold, iron, sugar cane, anything you can harvest really including trees/logs, but not planks/wood), so other ways would have to be added in order to destroy them, the pushing tnt into place with pistons was just an example

You can build a cannon with water, cobble, and 3-5 tnt, depending on how far you want the tnt to fly, im not sure if that would still work though
Im sure theres other stuff you can build to make weapons without modding anything
Like suicide dog bombers with tnt, a wolf, and pressure plates and rivers of creepers with water and creepers
You got to be creative and think impractically to blow down 5 layers of cobble
But actual weapons would be better, i dont know how you could get them in the game though
It would have to be something like the runecraft plugin, where you build a structure of some sort out of certain materials and it has an effect like a battering ram or catapult
I dont think the adventure update will add any siege warfare, unfortunately thats what PvP needs the most for storming castles
I know you can hide them, but i want giant epic battles in the open damnit



And i think you thought i meant something like the worldgaurd plugin that lets admins make regions for players and protects them from griefing and modification
What i meant was something like the towny plugin, where players claim land and can fight and go to war over territories
As an alternative to my idea

The smp map wouldnt need any of this though, so everything im talking about is for pvp only
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Server Discussion   Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:21 pm

Just thought I'd let anyone know that hasn't figured it out yet: the nether is fully operational. Enjoy death!
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Server Discussion   Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:16 pm

After the previous post, some really strange bugs were found with the nether. We are going to make some modifications to the portal system (there was interaction between the world portals and nether portals). Serenity and I will be doing this tomorrow evening most likely. If I have time at work I'll start earlier. Until then, the server is offline, i'll update when it's up.
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Server Discussion   Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:37 pm

cdkid wrote:
After the previous post, some really strange bugs were found with the nether. We are going to make some modifications to the portal system (there was interaction between the world portals and nether portals). Serenity and I will be doing this tomorrow evening most likely. If I have time at work I'll start earlier. Until then, the server is offline, i'll update when it's up.

10$ Cd's boss has something to do with this.

Prolly used 50,000 dynamite to blow up the god dam nether.
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Server Discussion   Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:22 am

no it wasnt. I created a portal on the 4th floor of my tower. I was able to destroy blocks but not able to place them. Cd never really told me why because i dont think he knows either.

Ill be taking those $10 now, thx
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Server Discussion   Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:43 am

Theres some other stuff like that where the permissions arent set up right
Like with a full set of gold armor, its supposed to protect you from lava, but it doesnt work for us
I thought the permissions with the nether were fixed though, since i could destroy blocks/place blocks

The main problem is that when you exit the nether it doesnt send you to the portal you entered from
Which i guess is caused by the world portals and is what they are going to fix like what cd was saying
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Server Discussion   Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:34 pm

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no it wasnt. I created a portal on the 4th floor of my tower. I was able to destroy blocks but not able to place them. Cd never really told me why because i dont think he knows either.
yep pats right, this is a permissions issue
now that the contest is over im gonna start on this

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I thought the permissions with the nether were fixed though, since i could destroy blocks/place blocks
permissions is still a bit glitchy (much better than last update though). these things happen, but they're usually easier to fix then everything else

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The main problem is that when you exit the nether it doesnt send you to the portal you entered from
Which i guess is caused by the world portals and is what they are going to fix like what cd was saying
yeah this is the main thing we're trying to fix

so multiworlds is a built in feature on bukkit, this includes nether
however bukkit doesn't have a builtin to tether these all together (god knows why)
this is where the stargate portals (seen in hub world) come in
similarly, bukkit also doesn't support making portals to and from the nether
this is where the old nether plugin came in
this plugin hasn't been updated for far too long. whether or not thats the cause, or the fact that there were portals before its introduction or the stargate plugin or any combination of those, i don't know, but it worked like shit.
so we tried switching plugins
they're all pretty buggy and just as bad as the next for moving a person between worlds (all lead to one portal... some of the time)
that said they're are 3 options
1. no nether at all
2. buggy nether
3. put 1 or 2 stargates to go between world and its nether. these would be constant and work fine, but you couldn't make additional portals

regardless of what option is chosen now, when the server resets (and the next bukkit / wave of updates comes out) we'll be trying extremely hard to get a much cleaner nether plugin... even if we have to make it ourselves.

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I thought the permissions with the nether were fixed though, since i could destroy blocks/place blocks
it was
sometimes its buggy
sometimes we reload the server but made a mistake somewhere in it
sometimes we don't know
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Server Discussion   Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:38 pm

The server's back up. Nether is still goofy, so it's disabled. I'll keep working on it.
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Server Discussion   Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:52 pm

new people keep on getting stuck in the hole in the middle of hub world. Just thought I would let you know that.

ps: I found dpatterson planting about 120 TNT under my visitors center and dog house...

I have no idea what good can come out of that
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Server Discussion   Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:00 pm

Thanks backseat. I'm going to work on the hubworld thing asap. . . and try to figure out wtf dpatterson's doing.
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Server Discussion   Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:38 pm

hey cd can i have the ip?

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PostSubject: Re: Clan Server Discussion   Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:39 am

alright
hubworld shouldn't have the stuck glitch anymore
but all i did was fix what i think is happening
no way for me to test it
please post if you or som1 in game gets stuck
if it keeps happening, ill just write a script to tele people who newly enter the hubworld to a new square
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Server Discussion   Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:04 am

okay so ATM i think the world needs some basic rules to make it less "hide, giggle, im so pro cause i dont die"

what i was thinking was boundarys at like 1000,1000 and -1000,-1000

and that your base has to be connected to a land mass and not underwater so no oceanic bases

maybe that you also need a door, and no covering it up?
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Server Discussion   Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:51 pm

something that i think may work. would be factions. its a plugin that you may know. or you might not. but what happens is that on person makes a faction and gets 10 power. he/she can use that power to claim land, they can not go over the ten power. it protects everything buildings houses chests doors, everything. if another person joins that faction the power grows by ten everytime. but if they die they lose power. and if they have claimed their max they are now exeding their power. now other factions can take that land and build on it or just grief the buildings already there. i think that this will help people including me want to build out side/ top side. but there is still the pvp element. if you kill them you can get their land and economy. please tell me what you think about this. i know that the server now will proably not be there long. but maybe this could be usfull on the new servers.
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Server Discussion   Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:00 pm

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something that i think may work. would be factions. its a plugin that you may know. or you might not. but what happens is that on person makes a faction and gets 10 power. he/she can use that power to claim land, they can not go over the ten power. it protects everything buildings houses chests doors, everything. if another person joins that faction the power grows by ten everytime. but if they die they lose power. and if they have claimed their max they are now exeding their power. now other factions can take that land and build on it or just grief the buildings already there. i think that this will help people including me want to build out side/ top side. but there is still the pvp element. if you kill them you can get their land and economy. please tell me what you think about this. i know that the server now will proably not be there long. but maybe this could be usfull on the new servers.

This needs to be implemented so badly...
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Server Discussion   Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:09 pm

i would also like to talk about these new people who have joined. i tryed to explain about the 1000 by 1000 rule, but signist ,maybe others i do not remember, were QQ about it. telling me who the hell was i to tell them what to do, even though cdkid and serenity told me and jok that those were the rules. why must we follow them and others not? i just want some rules set out so that everyone can know them and use them. ty.
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Server Discussion   Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:18 am

thanks venom, but don't worry about enforcing stuff
we can handle that bit

originally i wanted to just make a bedrock wall that kept everything inside
but collin was worried about raping the server (hehehehe viagra gives you bedrock. or wait, my bedrock is harder than your bedrock hehehehehe)

so we were gonna do a plugin that some kinda magic wall when you got 1000 out in any direction
but then that was actually kinda hard to do
so now bedrock is back on the table... although you could probably still get over it
i guess i could just yell at anyone who does that

is it an actual problem at this point, venom?
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Server Discussion   Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:18 pm

someone keeps logging onto other peoples accounts and stealing their items and finding out the location of their base

if the server is set to offline mode could be part of the problem otherwise idk

is there a way to change your /login pass?
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Server Discussion   Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:53 pm

How does logging in as someone else give them access to their stuff
I dont think it teleports you to the last location they were or anything like that

I can see how it would be a problem, but not for the reasons your saying


And who's account(s) is being logged on to, and how do you know
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Server Discussion   Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:16 pm

no its not a problem at the moment. but what jok was saying is. idk if its one person or many but they keep login on as different people and login in as people who have been here forever.

and pat its a problem becasue all they have to do is hit f3 know were your base is at and then login as theirs and grap all your stuff using the cords. they can also kill you to get your stuff out of your pockets.

me and jok know that people are login in to others accounts becasue yesterday jok got on and killed him self said random stuff then loged off. we were playing lol and i asked him and he said he had not been on all day. then while jok was playing at 2 am someone got on my account. i was dead asleep at 2 am. so it could not have been me. so someone is loging into our accounts with minecraftSP or some other way
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PostSubject: Re: Clan Server Discussion   Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:49 pm

when they login as you, they have all your items and they are where you logged out as

like venom said you hit f3 and you know where their base is

you can kill them so they drop all their stuff

I've lost iron armor and diamond tools from them logging on and stealing my stuff, and they found my base because of it
Twice now they've logged on as me, killed me to find my spawn and removed it


i KNOW people logged in as cdkid venom me, and gnahc and i strongly suspect a few others, but since i dont know them i cant be sure


cdkid told me someone logged in as him, and times when venom180 and gnahc saw "jokthefoo" on when i didnt even have access to internet

and like venom said last night at 2am mountain time someone logged on as him when he was asleep

i know one of the accounts that they use that isnt anyone elses is BigDick
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